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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208346421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208346421">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> -- planning meeting :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208346441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208346441">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Wave to show you're around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208346606" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208346606">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>We've got only a few <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Ameeting-proposal+-label%3Ameeting-scheduled">unscheduled meeting proposals</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208346627" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208346627">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I guess before we get to that, let's give time for folks to gather ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208346634" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208346634">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<h1>Announcements</h1>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208346661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208346661">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
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<li>I need more coffee <span aria-label="coffee" class="emoji emoji-2615" role="img" title="coffee">:coffee:</span></li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208346986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208346986">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, well, should we get started?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347014">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Coffee is ready. I was trying to get by with 1 cup this morning, but I give up)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347074">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Before discussing the pending meetings, I'll note that we have a bunch of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Ameeting-proposal+label%3Ameeting-scheduled+">older meetings that still need minutes</a>. Anyone who wants to volunteer to go back and summarize, be my guest. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347095">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Otherwise, I'll probably go and close the issues and just add some "placeholder" minutes that redirect to the zulip thread</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347111" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347111">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Here are the pending proposals:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347168">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>/poll Pending meeting proposals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347255">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Links:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347268" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347268">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
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<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/318">compiler-team#318</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/314">compiler-team#314</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">compiler-team#177</a></li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347341" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347341">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>We are scheduling for the following dates (add emoji if you are unavailable)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347398" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347398">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Sep 4</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347399" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347399">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Sep 11</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347404">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Sep 18</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347414">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>in order to schedule this stuff, do we want to know for instance when <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> is available (Mark is related to <code>Discuss results of 2020 Contributor Survey</code>)</p>



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<p>I was wondering that too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347442">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>of the meetings above, that was the one I was most interesting in</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347456" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347456">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm still sort of the opinion that we can close <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">compiler-team#177</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347483" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347483">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>(i.e., we have no real agenda for a meeting or plans to move on that)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347504">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="thumbs up" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="thumbs up">:thumbs_up:</span> on closing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347555">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, let's do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347644">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347679">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>so not many poll results but I guess that "discuss results of 2020 contributor survey" is the "most popular" ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347723">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>given that we have 2 meetings to accomodate in 3 slots, and one of the meetings we would need to check availability with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span>, isn't it better if we just talk to them and then accomodate the other one in one of the other 2 free slots?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347724">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think we need to cram in meetings right now, there's a lot going on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347755" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347755">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could see trying to schedule that for some friday when <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> is available (presuming they want to participate)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347770">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347819">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28/near/208347723">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>given that we have 2 meetings to accomodate in 3 slots, and one of the meetings we would need to check availability with <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span>, isn't it better if we just talk to them and then accomodate the other one in one of the other 2 free slots?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah I was going to propose something similar</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347838">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the main question is "do we want to do the mcp retro"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347873">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't feel a <em>strong need</em>, but I thought it'd be useful to talk over the MCP process, how it's been going, if we want to make any adjustments, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347889" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347889">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>It seems like it's been going long enough for us to have a sense of it by now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347918" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347918">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if it makes sense to try and do a survey in the lead up to that meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347932">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>+1, I have a "too much bureaucracy" feedbeck with respect to parser library-ification wg formation :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208347997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208347997">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133169">@matklad</span> +1 to what specifically?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348067" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348067">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28/near/208347918">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I wonder if it makes sense to try and do a survey in the lead up to that meeting</p>
</blockquote>
<p>that is a good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348154" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348154">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess just a simple survey would suffice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348189" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348189">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>things to keep/stop/start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348308">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>but that doesn't preclude scheduling it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348428" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348428">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we should schedule for, say, 3 weeks away</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348512" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348512">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I was thinking :</p>
<ul>
<li>Sep 4 or 11 -- contributor survey</li>
<li>Sep 18 -- MCP retro, and I'll make / conduct a survey after this mtg</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348615">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd go for the 4th I think, but don't mind much either way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348754">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was figuring it might depend on <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span>, as they drove that survey</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348779" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348779">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, why don't we say that, and I'll pin down the week for contributor survey by end of day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348786" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348786">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>any objections? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348835" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348835">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>(also, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133169">@matklad</span>, if you have a specific thing about the parser wg formation, we could discuss that in a separate topic...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208348909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208348909">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>1 to what specifically?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>MCP retro</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208349037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208349037">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>if you have a specific thing about the parser wg formation, we could discuss that in a separate topic...)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I am just filing the relevant PR to the team repo, but, if anyone can create <code>#t-compiler/wg-parselib</code>, that would be helpful :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208349083" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208349083">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133169">@matklad</span> yep I can do some of that stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208349505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208349505">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the truth is that the process here isn't mega clear :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208349633" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208349633">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, that would also be part of my feedback :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208350234" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208350234">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry I'm late, but I'd also +1 a MCP retrospective</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208350268" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208350268">(Aug 28 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not that I think anything has gone terribly wrong, but it would be good to reflect on it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208356464" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208356464">(Aug 28 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think i can do either of those days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208356526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208356526">(Aug 28 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208357199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208357199">(Aug 28 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK well let's do next week then I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208357210" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208357210">(Aug 28 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>ugh I forgot I have to do the follow-up work from this meeting :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.08.28/near/208357279" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E08.2E28.html#208357279">(Aug 28 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm glad I <a href="https://forge.rust-lang.org/compiler/steering-meeting/how-to-run-planning.html">documented the steps</a></p>



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